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Fallen Angles–how many groups are there?

(2011-02)
If you were asked how many groups of fallen angels exist, what would your answer be? (Briefly think about what you know before continuing to read ! )

If now you were told that there are two groups, the natural questions would be: what are these two different groups? And, where is each group to be found?

First, in Rev 12:9, we read:

9 And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him.

From that scripture, it is evident that one group of fallen angels is with Satan in the heavens until they are cast out of it.

What is the second group? Does it exists at all? What is taught by the apostle Peter?

II Pet 2:4:For if God didn’t spare angels when they sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

1 Pet 3:19: in which also going he preached to the spirits which are in prison . . .

II Pet 2:4 – below
4 KJV:     For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell <5020>, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
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4 WEB:     For if God didn’t spare angels when they sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;
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4 UMGreek:    Διοτι εαν ο Θεος δεν εφεισθη αγγελους αμαρτησαντας, αλλα ριψας αυτους εις τον ταρταρον δεδεμενους με αλυσεις σκοτους, παρεδωκε δια να φυλαττωνται εις κρισιν,

Transliterated into the Latin alphabet:
4 UMGreek: Dioti ean o Theos den epheisthē angelous amartēsantas, alla ripsas autous eis ton tartaron dedemenous me alyseis skotous, paredōke dia na phylattōntai eis krisin,

Strongs Dictionary: 05020:   tartaroo tar-tar-o'-o from Tartaros

Many Bibles translators give us their idea of what Tartarus is supposed to be in a variety of translations such as hell, infernal region, lower hell, the abyss, etc., however, such translations depend entirely on the translator’s beliefs and idea. This is why it is better left untranslated and left up to the Bible to determine, define, what it is and means. On this page, the Bible is given the chance to define its own terminology.

In the above scriptures, we are told that Jesus after he was resurrected went to preach to the spirits in prison, in Tartarus. The question then begs as to where this Tatarus is?

Also, why did Jesus preach to the angels in prison but not to those in heaven who are with Satan? Well, we know that Satan is damned and so are those angels who actively follow him. This means that all the fallen angels that are (or were) in heaven with Satan are damned–already judged. These shall be destroyed together with their master after Satan is let out at the end of the thousand year reign.

Are the angels who are in prison, in Tartarus, also damned? What did 2 Peter 2:4 say above?

For if God didn’t spare angels when they sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;
. . . to be kept for judgment. . . (Darby)

Here the inspired scripture says that the ones in prison are to be kept for judgment; in other words, they have not been judged yet !

In 1 Cor 6:2, 3 - this is said:

2 Do ye not then know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world is judged by you, are ye unworthy of the smallest judgments?
3 Do ye not know that we shall judge angels? and not then matters of this life?

Here then we see that these angels in prison in Tartarus are going to be judged by the saints. This means that some may receive the death penalty and that others may not. This can be explained if wanted, but that is the basic teaching found here.

Realize this: the reason the Saints are the ones given the duty to judge these imprisoned angels is because these 'sinned' against mankind. What each deserves for punishment, God leaves up to the priest-kings glorified, Christ's brothers and joint-heirs., former humans, to judge.

Again, where is Tartarus?

Phil 2:10 DRC: That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

Now we can see where Tartarus is. It is in underground places, in dense darkness. It is not the hell that churches teach about in which humans supposedly are found; rather, it is Tartarus, underground dark places in which the angels that ‘sinned’ are kept.